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		<title>By: urwumpe</title>
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		<dc:creator>urwumpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. It has not been spotted. 

No government on this planet operates a single telescope. All observatories are operated by astronomers, which usually are part of the physics departments of universities. Universities are often funded from tax money (but not always), but are not run or controlled by men with black suits and raybans. For the US government for example, NASA is responsible for distributing the tax payers money to the observatories, which help searching dangerous asteroids which might hit Earth. If one such asteroid is found by a observatory (regardless which country it stands in), the information is spread over the Internet in just minutes, so other observatories can point their telescopes at it and refine the observations. The more people look at it and the more pictures you get, showing the movement of the asteroid, the better becomes the knowledge of the trajectory of the asteroid.

Asteroid have the bad habit to not write their planned destination in huge friendly letters on them, so astronomers know it immediately.

This system of scientific exchange means: If one spots something new, it only takes maximal 8 hours until over 90,000 people on this planet know it. Astronomers, technicians, students and others. Without one government agent being able to stop it. How could he? He does not know what this object is until all astronomers did their job. The government learns about the thing in the same moment the rest of  the world learns about it: When it appears in the astronomical catalogs, which can be seen by all people, who can speak astronomy.

So from that knowledge about how the real world works, let me correct your view of yourself:

You are not neutral, you are naive. Neutral would mean, you use the scientific method on all observation without any possible bias. You don&#039;t assume things. Like for example government conspiracies or aliens. You only deal with things, for which you have rock solid evidence. And one rule of science is simple: Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence. The more your claims differ from the current knowledge of the world (For example: Aliens exist and are planning to enslave us), the better has to be your evidence. the usual way of the Internet &quot;Hey, use common sense, it is possible, so it must be true.&quot; is bogus. 

Common sense is not part of science, as common sense is just a more friendly word for common incompetence. Common sense rarely works accurate, especially not if you deal with uncommon things. For example strange planets, multi-body gravity fields and general relativity. 

There is a very interesting story about why common sense is not part of science: The Greek philosopher Plato, otherwise a great guy, reasoned by common sense and his logic, that women must have less teeth than men. It all made sense to him and he was able to talk long and convince others. But is that true? No. Plato did not base his theory on evidence, and he did also never count the teeth of women and men to be test his theory against reality.

If you think your government does not tell you everything, you are very likely right. But remember one important law of science:

&quot;Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity&quot;
(Hanlon&#039;s Razor)

Your government can&#039;t hide the fact, that it has many innocent people in prisons. Your government can&#039;t hide the fact, that it wastes money every year. Your government can not even hide it, if your president has too much fun with an intern or sends his tugs out to steal documents from his political rivals. Your government can&#039;t even prevent people from creating lists and calculating trajectory data of it&#039;s secret spy satellites. 

Of course it can&#039;t hide this stuff. All government agents are busy traveling through all over the world making sure that amateur astronomers don&#039;t discover the wrong asteroid or see the alien spaceships planning to invade Earth. yeah sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. It has not been spotted. </p>
<p>No government on this planet operates a single telescope. All observatories are operated by astronomers, which usually are part of the physics departments of universities. Universities are often funded from tax money (but not always), but are not run or controlled by men with black suits and raybans. For the US government for example, NASA is responsible for distributing the tax payers money to the observatories, which help searching dangerous asteroids which might hit Earth. If one such asteroid is found by a observatory (regardless which country it stands in), the information is spread over the Internet in just minutes, so other observatories can point their telescopes at it and refine the observations. The more people look at it and the more pictures you get, showing the movement of the asteroid, the better becomes the knowledge of the trajectory of the asteroid.</p>
<p>Asteroid have the bad habit to not write their planned destination in huge friendly letters on them, so astronomers know it immediately.</p>
<p>This system of scientific exchange means: If one spots something new, it only takes maximal 8 hours until over 90,000 people on this planet know it. Astronomers, technicians, students and others. Without one government agent being able to stop it. How could he? He does not know what this object is until all astronomers did their job. The government learns about the thing in the same moment the rest of  the world learns about it: When it appears in the astronomical catalogs, which can be seen by all people, who can speak astronomy.</p>
<p>So from that knowledge about how the real world works, let me correct your view of yourself:</p>
<p>You are not neutral, you are naive. Neutral would mean, you use the scientific method on all observation without any possible bias. You don&#8217;t assume things. Like for example government conspiracies or aliens. You only deal with things, for which you have rock solid evidence. And one rule of science is simple: Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence. The more your claims differ from the current knowledge of the world (For example: Aliens exist and are planning to enslave us), the better has to be your evidence. the usual way of the Internet &#8220;Hey, use common sense, it is possible, so it must be true.&#8221; is bogus. </p>
<p>Common sense is not part of science, as common sense is just a more friendly word for common incompetence. Common sense rarely works accurate, especially not if you deal with uncommon things. For example strange planets, multi-body gravity fields and general relativity. </p>
<p>There is a very interesting story about why common sense is not part of science: The Greek philosopher Plato, otherwise a great guy, reasoned by common sense and his logic, that women must have less teeth than men. It all made sense to him and he was able to talk long and convince others. But is that true? No. Plato did not base his theory on evidence, and he did also never count the teeth of women and men to be test his theory against reality.</p>
<p>If you think your government does not tell you everything, you are very likely right. But remember one important law of science:</p>
<p>&#8220;Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity&#8221;<br />
(Hanlon&#8217;s Razor)</p>
<p>Your government can&#8217;t hide the fact, that it has many innocent people in prisons. Your government can&#8217;t hide the fact, that it wastes money every year. Your government can not even hide it, if your president has too much fun with an intern or sends his tugs out to steal documents from his political rivals. Your government can&#8217;t even prevent people from creating lists and calculating trajectory data of it&#8217;s secret spy satellites. </p>
<p>Of course it can&#8217;t hide this stuff. All government agents are busy traveling through all over the world making sure that amateur astronomers don&#8217;t discover the wrong asteroid or see the alien spaceships planning to invade Earth. yeah sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this supposed planet was supposed to be here in just less than four years it would be highly visible.  You could easily see it with a $ 500 telescope, the kind that get sold in shopping malls, you might even be able to see it with a good pair of binoculars.  It would probably be closer than Saturn by now.  So almost anyone can see it.  Where is it?  Can&#039;t the believers find it?  What is its declination and what is its right ascension?  Nobody can say because it does not exist.   

Planet X was supposed to cause a pole reversal on Earth by a magnetic effect.  To do that it would have to be pretty big, so it isn&#039;t a mere meteor or an asteroid. It was supposed to be here in the middle of 2003.  If it didn&#039;t get there then why has its visit been postponed to 2012?   Could it be that the 2012 frauds needed something to hang their disaster on?

Planet X was invented around 1994 by Nancy Lieder who claimed she was abducted by aliens and later talked to them by telepathy.  

You can check it out on the Zetatalk site and forum if you want.  I looked at it a few years ago, and believe me, it&#039;s a waste of time.  Bunch of imbeciles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this supposed planet was supposed to be here in just less than four years it would be highly visible.  You could easily see it with a $ 500 telescope, the kind that get sold in shopping malls, you might even be able to see it with a good pair of binoculars.  It would probably be closer than Saturn by now.  So almost anyone can see it.  Where is it?  Can&#8217;t the believers find it?  What is its declination and what is its right ascension?  Nobody can say because it does not exist.   </p>
<p>Planet X was supposed to cause a pole reversal on Earth by a magnetic effect.  To do that it would have to be pretty big, so it isn&#8217;t a mere meteor or an asteroid. It was supposed to be here in the middle of 2003.  If it didn&#8217;t get there then why has its visit been postponed to 2012?   Could it be that the 2012 frauds needed something to hang their disaster on?</p>
<p>Planet X was invented around 1994 by Nancy Lieder who claimed she was abducted by aliens and later talked to them by telepathy.  </p>
<p>You can check it out on the Zetatalk site and forum if you want.  I looked at it a few years ago, and believe me, it&#8217;s a waste of time.  Bunch of imbeciles.</p>
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		<title>By: .:.:Mail On Sunday:.:.</title>
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		<dc:creator>.:.:Mail On Sunday:.:.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a lots of annoying people here: &quot;its fake...its a hoax...oaaah&quot;
they are all the same! I still don&#039;t know why are they answer to all these planet x questions! they answer the same all the time! ANNOYING! 
you should read this:
http://www.planet-x.150m.com/washpost.html
its says that a planet would pass between the earth and the sun in 2012,however some sites says that the big date would be in 14 February 2013! and you will see it with naked eyes in the year 2011.I don&#039;t know why they call it &quot;the 10th planet&quot; cuz I read that is orbiting a brown dwarf star,not our sun! and it has a lots of moons! 
but now I started to became a sceptic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a lots of annoying people here: &#8220;its fake&#8230;its a hoax&#8230;oaaah&#8221;<br />
they are all the same! I still don&#8217;t know why are they answer to all these planet x questions! they answer the same all the time! ANNOYING!<br />
you should read this:<br />
http://www.planet-x.150m.com/washpost.html<br />
its says that a planet would pass between the earth and the sun in 2012,however some sites says that the big date would be in 14 February 2013! and you will see it with naked eyes in the year 2011.I don&#8217;t know why they call it &#8220;the 10th planet&#8221; cuz I read that is orbiting a brown dwarf star,not our sun! and it has a lots of moons!<br />
but now I started to became a sceptic</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicky S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. It is our own suns brown dwarf twin which will pass between us and Jupiter on December 21st 20012. Better start digging yourself a shelter right quick!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. It is our own suns brown dwarf twin which will pass between us and Jupiter on December 21st 20012. Better start digging yourself a shelter right quick!.</p>
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		<title>By: tick tock</title>
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		<dc:creator>tick tock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As far as anyof us know none of it is real.&quot;

That reminds me of the line from &quot;Fletch&quot;:

&quot;Are you a cop?&quot;
&quot;As far as you know.&quot;

heh heh heh....

hey, just because you are in middle school, doesn&#039;t mean the rest of us are.  I spent a good many years studying astronomy and working in an observatory and BELIEVE ME that Nibiru is just a crack-pipe dream of a few greedy so-and-so&#039;s that just want your money.  It not only DOESN&#039;T exist, any planetary body with those parameters could NOT exist.

Not now, not ever.

The ONLY explanation for why Nibiru has been discussed is that it was made up or imagined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As far as anyof us know none of it is real.&#8221;</p>
<p>That reminds me of the line from &#8220;Fletch&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you a cop?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;As far as you know.&#8221;</p>
<p>heh heh heh&#8230;.</p>
<p>hey, just because you are in middle school, doesn&#8217;t mean the rest of us are.  I spent a good many years studying astronomy and working in an observatory and BELIEVE ME that Nibiru is just a crack-pipe dream of a few greedy so-and-so&#8217;s that just want your money.  It not only DOESN&#8217;T exist, any planetary body with those parameters could NOT exist.</p>
<p>Not now, not ever.</p>
<p>The ONLY explanation for why Nibiru has been discussed is that it was made up or imagined.</p>
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		<title>By: injanier</title>
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		<dc:creator>injanier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no &quot;planet x&quot; that anyone knows of. As for the government spotting it, astronomy is not under government control. Professional astronomers work for universities or research institutes, and will rush to be the first to publish any new discovery. In addition, there are many amateur astronomers with fairly advanced equipment capable of detecting any significant incoming object. To properly sift out the bs you need to add critical thinking and an understanding of how science works to your logic and common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no &#8220;planet x&#8221; that anyone knows of. As for the government spotting it, astronomy is not under government control. Professional astronomers work for universities or research institutes, and will rush to be the first to publish any new discovery. In addition, there are many amateur astronomers with fairly advanced equipment capable of detecting any significant incoming object. To properly sift out the bs you need to add critical thinking and an understanding of how science works to your logic and common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Tedward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tedward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;what is planet x and is it ture the gov has spoted it already?&quot;

If the government can see it then you can be sure as hell many more people can also see it. Fact.  Not something your usual conspiracy theorist can say a government can cover up, too many curious people with telescopes.

So, where is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;what is planet x and is it ture the gov has spoted it already?&#8221;</p>
<p>If the government can see it then you can be sure as hell many more people can also see it. Fact.  Not something your usual conspiracy theorist can say a government can cover up, too many curious people with telescopes.</p>
<p>So, where is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Salvador</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salvador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was real and the claims I have heard about it is true then you could easily see it with your naked eye as it would be one of the brightest objects in the night sky.  Kinda hard to cover up something than anyone looking up can see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was real and the claims I have heard about it is true then you could easily see it with your naked eye as it would be one of the brightest objects in the night sky.  Kinda hard to cover up something than anyone looking up can see.</p>
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		<title>By: cyswxman</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyswxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Planet X is a fictitious planet that was supposed to cause cataclysmic destruction on the Earth back in 2003.  As with all the other doomsday hoaxes, when that time passed harmlessly, they simply &quot;recalculated&quot; to a future date which again passed uneventfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Planet X is a fictitious planet that was supposed to cause cataclysmic destruction on the Earth back in 2003.  As with all the other doomsday hoaxes, when that time passed harmlessly, they simply &#8220;recalculated&#8221; to a future date which again passed uneventfully.</p>
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		<title>By: ddale</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two words: ludicrous and ridiculous.

Don&#039;t worry about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two words: ludicrous and ridiculous.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about it.</p>
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